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richard herman is a criminal defense attorney, a law professor as well. he's joining us from las vegas. thanks very much for coming in. let's start with the fact that the government did not read the suspect his miranda rights invoking the public safety exception. avery, what do you think about that decision? >> i think it's an incorrect decision. i don't think there should be any delay in mirandizing. the job is to secure a convicti conviction. at the same time, intelligence personnel are going to be talking to this individual, talking to tsarnaev because there are issues unrelated to his personal issue criminality. and miranda has nothing to do with that, wolf. so we're seeing federal officials making the interview, trying to ask questions will have nothing to do withmy ran did. it's imperative because we don't want to jeopardize this prosecution in any way. i think it's imperative it be done now. >> richard, do you agree? >> well, i do think he should be mirandized, but we have heard interviews earlier today where the justice department says they don't
richard herman is a criminal defense attorney, a law professor as well. he's joining us from las vegas. thanks very much for coming in. let's start with the fact that the government did not read the suspect his miranda rights invoking the public safety exception. avery, what do you think about that decision? >> i think it's an incorrect decision. i don't think there should be any delay in mirandizing. the job is to secure a convicti conviction. at the same time, intelligence personnel are...
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the neighborhood because that's what hundreds of police officers did, rushing in to set up a line of defense around it while they rushed people away. then, wolf, they brought in the technology. going to demonstrate what we are talking about with this small model. they brought in a thermal imaging helicopter. it can look to the ground and measure anything that's hot down there and see anything giving off any heat, including a human being in a boat in a backyard like that one there. this is what they saw. they had an image of someone in the back of that boat, just as the witness had suspected, and the person was moving around. while all we have are still images, they had real time video that told them when someone was moving in the back of that boat. a gun fight ensued. there were injuries to him, i believe he was hit two more times, threw flash bang grenades there and everything got quiet as negotiators tried to talk to him. what happened next? they brought in more technology, had a robotic arm so they could reach out to him. two hours, then they brought in thermal imaging one more time. this
the neighborhood because that's what hundreds of police officers did, rushing in to set up a line of defense around it while they rushed people away. then, wolf, they brought in the technology. going to demonstrate what we are talking about with this small model. they brought in a thermal imaging helicopter. it can look to the ground and measure anything that's hot down there and see anything giving off any heat, including a human being in a boat in a backyard like that one there. this is what...
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we have criminal defense attorney bernard klein with us. his clients include ramzi yousef who was convicted in the 1993 world trade center bombing. thanks so much for being with us. our jake tapper reporting this morning that apparently there is a fair amount of information being conveyed by gentleman tar tsarnaev to investigators. he's talking about the attack. he's talking about his brother's role in the attack. he's saying they were radicalized by watching online videos. without going into the detail of exactly what he's saying let's talk about how much he's saying, as a defense attorney, does it concern you that he's conveying so much information right now? >> well, i think one thing, john, to remember, now that he has counsel assigned to him, i would tend to doubt that he's still speaking to the authorities. certainly without counsel being present, he wouldn't be speaking to them at all. so i think at this point in time the interrogation may well have stopped and he's meeting more importantly with his defense attorneys to determine exa
we have criminal defense attorney bernard klein with us. his clients include ramzi yousef who was convicted in the 1993 world trade center bombing. thanks so much for being with us. our jake tapper reporting this morning that apparently there is a fair amount of information being conveyed by gentleman tar tsarnaev to investigators. he's talking about the attack. he's talking about his brother's role in the attack. he's saying they were radicalized by watching online videos. without going into...
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the defense mother may move to have the trial moved to western massachusetts. jury selection will be difficult. anybody who cheered would be exexcluded. >> he himself, we don't know how badly he's been wounded. he may not make it to a trial. >> was there really an exchange of gunfire or did they find him in the boat in a semiunconscious way. he probably doesn't understand the miranda warnings at this point. >> allen, thank you. [ male announcer ] when you're at the corner of "multivitamin" and "multiple choice," come to walgreens for help finding the one that's right for you... like centrum. now, get four dollars off select centrum products with balance rewards card. at the corner of happy and healthy. for over 30 years. and it's now the most doctor recommended, the most preferred and the most studied. so when it comes to getting the most out of your multivitamin, the choice is clear. centrum. the choice is clear. when i take a picture of this check, it goes straight to the bank. oh. oh look the lion is out! no mommy no! don't worry honey, it only works on chec
the defense mother may move to have the trial moved to western massachusetts. jury selection will be difficult. anybody who cheered would be exexcluded. >> he himself, we don't know how badly he's been wounded. he may not make it to a trial. >> was there really an exchange of gunfire or did they find him in the boat in a semiunconscious way. he probably doesn't understand the miranda warnings at this point. >> allen, thank you. [ male announcer ] when you're at the corner of...
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number one, the jihad defense. i did it, i'm proud, i'm happy, please kill me, i want to join my brother in paradise. i'm a martyr. the other, my brother made me do it, i am innocent, look at my face, look at my high school record, i really didn't mean it, don't give me the death penalty. i think from what we have heard now, the jihad defense seems like it is off the table. he is prepared to cooperate. he apparently is beginning to blame his brother. he probably wants to live, not die. and so we're going to see a kind of not a defense on the merits, but please don't execute me. and then, of course, the defense lawyers have to make a hard decision. should the trial be in boston where everybody is a victim, or should it be moved to springfield, which might have a fairer jury, but the jury pool might be more inclined to give the death penalty. a hard judgment call that any defense lawyer has to make in a case like this. >> all right. here is the big topic of conversation i want you two to take up on, potentially from
number one, the jihad defense. i did it, i'm proud, i'm happy, please kill me, i want to join my brother in paradise. i'm a martyr. the other, my brother made me do it, i am innocent, look at my face, look at my high school record, i really didn't mean it, don't give me the death penalty. i think from what we have heard now, the jihad defense seems like it is off the table. he is prepared to cooperate. he apparently is beginning to blame his brother. he probably wants to live, not die. and so...
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. >> before i let you go, erin what do we know about legal defense? did he have legal representation in that hospital room? >> reporter: i have the transcript of the court hearing here there is controversy on friday and over the weekend about him not being mirandized. they went through it twice today and offered the use of an attorney and the one word he spoke was no when asked if he could afford an attorney and he was presented with defense attorneys today. >>> we want to bring you a look at the case against dzhokhar tsarnaev in the federal complaint against him. >> reporter: according to the complaint 2:38 on race day 11 minutes before the first explosion two men are seen walking toward the finish line carrying large knapsacks, tamerlan tsarnaev is in front and dzhokhar tsarnaev is a few feet behind. the two are seen a half block away from a restaurant camera. a minute later, bomber one, tamerlan walks out of the crowd with a knapsack on his back. at 2:45, alleged bomber two, dzhokhar walks to the finish line. he has a cell phone in his left hand. t
. >> before i let you go, erin what do we know about legal defense? did he have legal representation in that hospital room? >> reporter: i have the transcript of the court hearing here there is controversy on friday and over the weekend about him not being mirandized. they went through it twice today and offered the use of an attorney and the one word he spoke was no when asked if he could afford an attorney and he was presented with defense attorneys today. >>> we want to...
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awareness of your surroundings could be the only defense. david mattingly, cnn, new mexico. >> perspective on this. as we're learning every day, stopping someone before they can commit an act like this is very difficult. more difficult than we even imagined sometimes. however, what made the difference at the marathon was how people responded after the bombs went off. tremendous energy, tremendous know-how and triage, and the more they understand about these bombs and what they can do, the better first responders can limit the impact and that's part of the equation how we stay safer. >>> we're going to take a break. emotions of anger, disbelief, heartbreak from the mother of the boston bombing suspects. she speaks out to cnn. what she says, when we come back. this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, you will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one n
awareness of your surroundings could be the only defense. david mattingly, cnn, new mexico. >> perspective on this. as we're learning every day, stopping someone before they can commit an act like this is very difficult. more difficult than we even imagined sometimes. however, what made the difference at the marathon was how people responded after the bombs went off. tremendous energy, tremendous know-how and triage, and the more they understand about these bombs and what they can do, the...
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he will get a defense attorney and he will have an arraignment. in normal circumstances, someone arrested on a friday night would probably not be arraigned until monday morning. just because of the extraordinary circumstances here, he might be arraigned tomorrow if he's in medical shape to be arraigned. at the arraignment, two things will happen. there will be a discussion of bail. he will not get out on bail, obviously. but they will set what's called a preliminary hearing 30 days forward. the preliminary hearing will not happen. what will happen is in those 30 days, in the next 30 days, he will be indicted by a grand jury with the initial charges. then the case will be assigned to a federal district judge and that's when the case will really begin. but the next legal event will be an arraignment, perhaps tomorrow, perhaps monday. in any case, at a time when he's physically able to be arraigned. >> so at this point, i assume, what, he's been read his miranda rights and at what point does he get counsel? >> he will get counsel more or less immedia
he will get a defense attorney and he will have an arraignment. in normal circumstances, someone arrested on a friday night would probably not be arraigned until monday morning. just because of the extraordinary circumstances here, he might be arraigned tomorrow if he's in medical shape to be arraigned. at the arraignment, two things will happen. there will be a discussion of bail. he will not get out on bail, obviously. but they will set what's called a preliminary hearing 30 days forward. the...
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single witness for the defense. our legal analyst was surprised that there was in medical expert called to defend the doctor which he says suggests a serious weakness in the doctor's case and indicates that the defense had trouble finding anyone who would defend the practices at the clinic. closing arguments in that case will be monday. >>> air delays are hitting the united states more than 1,000 delays attributed in one day to furloughs from the forced budget cuts passed by congress. many dispute whether these were necessary. but in all, 50,000 faa workers are being forced to take unpaid time off to save money. the obama administration said today it would be open to legislation that would give the faa flexibility with its budget. but called that a band-aid approach. a spokeswoman for the airline says the lobbying group is trying to halt the furloughs and calls them irresponsible and unnecessary. and many are arguing that these are not required by the sequester. well, we have an "outfront" investigation on whether t
single witness for the defense. our legal analyst was surprised that there was in medical expert called to defend the doctor which he says suggests a serious weakness in the doctor's case and indicates that the defense had trouble finding anyone who would defend the practices at the clinic. closing arguments in that case will be monday. >>> air delays are hitting the united states more than 1,000 delays attributed in one day to furloughs from the forced budget cuts passed by congress....
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chan change, the moment we change, the moment we look inward, the moment we get on a crouch on our defensive, that's the moment when they win. what makes me so proud of this great state and the city of boston and cambridge and all those involved and the students on this campus, what makes me so proud to be an american is that we have not yielded to our fears. we have not compromised our values. we have not weakened our instituti constitutional guarantees. we have not closed our borders. just look around this field at the student body here. just listen to the accents of the president and vice president, this is a diverse campus. probably the greatest technological university in the world, it's black, it's white, it's muslim, it's christian, it's jewish, it's hindu. that's who we are. you represent every community in the world. and what do you do? you challenge your orthodox as they try to impose it. you push the envelope. you know that no change can come without jettison in the past, you're on the edge of science and technology. you make no distinction between the competence of male and femal
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i remember when defense secretary leon panetta said that his greatest fear for the united states is a lone wolf attack because it would be impossible to pick up before hand and perhaps then impossible to identify it afterwards. and many have said this could be that kind of situation. are you concerned because there's no suspect? last night they said they had someone they were questioning. that person now is not a perso of interest. what can you tell us about who they're looking at right now and your fears of perhaps never finding the person. >> of course it's a huge concern. usually within the first four hours, that's your best opportunity to apprehend the criminal, in this case the terrorist. i do think the video they have from the scene will help facilitate the appearance of the individual who dropped this backpack into the trash cans. and i think the explosive forensics that's going to be done i think will give us a lot of information to move this information forward. but like you, i am concerned and the lone wolf homegrown terrorist is probably the most difficult to prevent and mo
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. >> this lieutenant general runs the defense department's counteri.e.d. operations and last year said, quote, we're dreaming if we think this threat will leave us after the wars in afghanistan. since 2011 there have been more than 10,000 i.e.d. attacks in over a hundred countries. >> 40 different networks were responsible. in the future it is estimated home made bombs will become the weapon of choice in the u.s. >> i.e.d.s are the biggest single threat we have to our security in the nation. >> he ran the homeland security department bomb prevention unit. >> the capacity to construct and build an i.e.d. is really very small in terms of the level of engineering or technical background and the materials are widely available. >> reporter: a research center at the university of maryland says there have been 44 i.e.d. attacks in the u.s. since 2001. in 2011 a white supremacists crafted one with layers of shrapnel and rat poison, a nasty bomb which would have caused those who survived to bleed to death. his target? a parade marking the martin luther king holiday
. >> this lieutenant general runs the defense department's counteri.e.d. operations and last year said, quote, we're dreaming if we think this threat will leave us after the wars in afghanistan. since 2011 there have been more than 10,000 i.e.d. attacks in over a hundred countries. >> 40 different networks were responsible. in the future it is estimated home made bombs will become the weapon of choice in the u.s. >> i.e.d.s are the biggest single threat we have to our security...
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awareness of your surroundings could be the only defense. david mattingly, cnn, secoro, new mexico. >>> more help arriving in southwestern china, where survivors of saturday's earthquake are in desperate need of food and water and shelter. chinese state media are now reporting that at least 192 people were killed in the disaster, but more than 11,000 were injured. >>> meanwhile, a territorial dispute between china and japan is heating up. japan says eight chinese ships have entered its territorial waters near the senkaku islands. china calleds them the dialu. more from beijing with all on this. ivan, how should we read this development regarding the chinese ships entering these waters? is this part of previous cat and mouse games we've seen between these two countries, or is it something more serious. >> reporter: absolutely. these uninhabited islands in the east china sea have been the source of a lot of tension between china and japan in past months where you had, you know, planes and warships putting radar locks on each other and all sort
awareness of your surroundings could be the only defense. david mattingly, cnn, secoro, new mexico. >>> more help arriving in southwestern china, where survivors of saturday's earthquake are in desperate need of food and water and shelter. chinese state media are now reporting that at least 192 people were killed in the disaster, but more than 11,000 were injured. >>> meanwhile, a territorial dispute between china and japan is heating up. japan says eight chinese ships have...
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. >> a good criminal defense lawyer -- you're a lawyer -- if they make the younger brother is going to be tried with a death sentence, if in fact they make the case he was brainwashed by his older brother, perhaps a jury would say he doesn't deserve the death penalty. >> that will be a defense. there are a lot of questions about whether a trial will actually occur. if he has pled, there may be all variations of a trial to occur, including something boston has been to be prepared for is whether a trial really happen here. a good defense attorney is going to say there's no way we can get an objective crime if boston. >> timothy mcveigh committed his crime in oklahoma city but he was tried in indiana. thanks very much. >>> we're back in a moment with more from what's going on here in boston. stay with me. boom. heart attack. the doctor recommends bayer aspirin to keep this from happening to me again. it's working. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. it can happen to anyone. talk to your doctor. [ beeping ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't
. >> a good criminal defense lawyer -- you're a lawyer -- if they make the younger brother is going to be tried with a death sentence, if in fact they make the case he was brainwashed by his older brother, perhaps a jury would say he doesn't deserve the death penalty. >> that will be a defense. there are a lot of questions about whether a trial will actually occur. if he has pled, there may be all variations of a trial to occur, including something boston has been to be prepared for...
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certainly this defense lawyer is going to say, stop talking. there is nothing to be gained at this point, particularly since his cooperation may be the only negotiating leverage he has to avoid a death penalty. so certainly there will be two thoughts on the mind of his defense attorney. one is silence from his client, and the second is delay. delay things as long as possible. the country, the commonwealth of massachusetts, boston, everybody is hugely exercised about this right now, but time has a way of making people somewhat less angry, increasing the chances perhaps for a plea bargain or some sort of other resolution to the case. >> so all of that talk of some sort of public safety exception before you give him his miranda rights, all that talk of naming him as an enemy combatant, all of that is moot right now. they've gone forward with the official proceedings. >> well, they may have used the public safety exception, and apparently they were using it to question him, and he responded in some way given his medical condition. but certainly now
certainly this defense lawyer is going to say, stop talking. there is nothing to be gained at this point, particularly since his cooperation may be the only negotiating leverage he has to avoid a death penalty. so certainly there will be two thoughts on the mind of his defense attorney. one is silence from his client, and the second is delay. delay things as long as possible. the country, the commonwealth of massachusetts, boston, everybody is hugely exercised about this right now, but time has...
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awareness of your surroundings could be the only defense. >> david joins me now. that is just incredible to actually watch that and watch the shock waves and that you felt it a quarter mile away. just gives me a whole new appreciation for what people felt at such distance. you're talking about how easy it is for people to make these bombs in a pressure cooker. what surprised you the most about what you saw? >> reporter: we commissioned the experts at new mexico tech to do this demonstration for us. what surprised me, less than $100 worth of material and access to the internet and you can build one of these bombs. they're crude, they are very difficult to police but what we're seeing based on the tests that we had there was how fast the material flies out once that gun powder or whatever explosive material is being used actually blows up. you heard him say that material was flying out at -- faster than the speed of sound so you could literally be hit and hurt before you even hear the bomb go off. >> wow. that is amazing. when you talk about them going faster than t
awareness of your surroundings could be the only defense. >> david joins me now. that is just incredible to actually watch that and watch the shock waves and that you felt it a quarter mile away. just gives me a whole new appreciation for what people felt at such distance. you're talking about how easy it is for people to make these bombs in a pressure cooker. what surprised you the most about what you saw? >> reporter: we commissioned the experts at new mexico tech to do this...
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but what about the defense angle? we're digging deep into that when our special coverage of the newsroom continues. everybody has different investment objectives, ideas, goals, appetite for risk. you can't say 'one size fits all'. it doesn't. that's crazy. we're all totally different. ishares core. etf building blocks for your personalized portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus, which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it easier to get what you need. [ beeping ] these are great! [ beeping ] how are you, um, how are you doing? i'm going to keep looking over here. probably a good idea. ken: what's a good idea? nothi
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there are a number of factors that the defense will use. he's only 19 years old. the supreme court has said that no one under 18 can even be considered for the death penalty. so his youth is one reason. the other point as you mentioned is, what was the influence? was he brain wauwashbrainwashed? was he coerced by his older brother? the other factor is what role he actually played, how the division of labor took place. we don't know that at this point. if he was very much the minor player, that will be another factor. that's something that's going to play out over a number of months. >> he's got to get healthy presumably before anything significant can be done. if he's communicating right now, he's not been read his miranda rights, but he's writing answers to questions. what do you make of that from the legal perspective, that he's at least giving some answers to the fbi? >> that suggests his arraignment will be held soon. he can't be arraigned if he can't understand what's going on. he has to be able to be told what the charges are. he has to be given a lawyer. he
there are a number of factors that the defense will use. he's only 19 years old. the supreme court has said that no one under 18 can even be considered for the death penalty. so his youth is one reason. the other point as you mentioned is, what was the influence? was he brain wauwashbrainwashed? was he coerced by his older brother? the other factor is what role he actually played, how the division of labor took place. we don't know that at this point. if he was very much the minor player, that...
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meanwhile, the defense secretary chuck hagel spoke about the bombing investigation today. he said so far he has not seen any intelligence directly linking the surviving suspect and his older brother, the 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev, to any, any terrorist organization per se, but the chairman of the house intelligence committee says the older tsarnaev who was killed after the shootout with police, may have become seriously radicalized by islamic extremists when he went to russia last year. here's what the house homeland security chairman had to say today on cnn's state of the union. >> there were reports they had suicide vests on. you don't learn that overnight. i personally believe that this man received training when he was over there, and he radicalized from 2010 to the present, and nine months after he comes back from the chechen region, he pulled off the largest terror attack since 9/11. >> after a dramatic shootout with police that killed his older brother and then eluding police in an intense day-long manhunt, dzhokhar tsarnaev is hospitalized. he's described as be
meanwhile, the defense secretary chuck hagel spoke about the bombing investigation today. he said so far he has not seen any intelligence directly linking the surviving suspect and his older brother, the 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev, to any, any terrorist organization per se, but the chairman of the house intelligence committee says the older tsarnaev who was killed after the shootout with police, may have become seriously radicalized by islamic extremists when he went to russia last year....
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advise him that his cooperation, you know, depending on what the government was willing to say to this defense lawyer, whether or not and what benefit he might get as a result of his cooperation. remember, from the very beginning, from the president on down, everyone has said public safety is the first and highest priority. so the first question he's going to be asked is are there more devices and where are they? and, you know, and so if that were the case, i'm not suggesting it is, but it certainly is the first question you want to ask and to get to find any additional devices you would want -- you would want to give him the benefit of that cooperation. so this will have to -- it unfolds very methodically, right, the investigators have questions and in the order of the priority they're going to ask him, public safety will come first. second is to identify any additional potential conspirators who may have been involved in the planning or execution of the bombing. >> all right. fran, stand by. don't go away. we're going to continue the nonstop coverage here. our team coverage of what's going o
advise him that his cooperation, you know, depending on what the government was willing to say to this defense lawyer, whether or not and what benefit he might get as a result of his cooperation. remember, from the very beginning, from the president on down, everyone has said public safety is the first and highest priority. so the first question he's going to be asked is are there more devices and where are they? and, you know, and so if that were the case, i'm not suggesting it is, but it...
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they acted alone in defense of islam, at least that is the message for now. cnn learned the marathon bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev is now communicating with investigators. tsarnaev said his older brother was behind the aattack. he also said no foreign terror groups were involved and motivation was to defend islam. tsarnaev unable to talk but is charged with malicious of deinstruction of the property. those are counts that could bring him the death penalty. mean while residents that work on boyleston street may be allowed back in today a day or so before the general public will be allowed back in. zoraida. >> thank you very much. there's more rain and snow in the forecast to add to the record flooding taking place all across the midwest. the grand river is three feet over flood stage. in illinois, governor quinn declared disaster areas in more than 40 counties. we're live in spring bay illinois where the river is over flowing into the streets since sunday. i read that the water levels grew 13 feet in five days there. what is the situation now? >> reporter:
they acted alone in defense of islam, at least that is the message for now. cnn learned the marathon bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev is now communicating with investigators. tsarnaev said his older brother was behind the aattack. he also said no foreign terror groups were involved and motivation was to defend islam. tsarnaev unable to talk but is charged with malicious of deinstruction of the property. those are counts that could bring him the death penalty. mean while residents that work on...
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justification, the eyes of the law and the courts in the united states, none of that will suffice as a defense and we should be clear with viewers, no matter what dzhokhar says now, the fact that he and his brother don't represent muslims and islams around the world, this was -- you know, this was their view and their own justification for really what were horrific acts of violence? >> do we know, fran, if the information that the younger tsavraev, the 19-year-old tsavraev has been providing the fbi about his older brother, the motivation, the bomb, the denial of any link to a formal international terrorist group, this information was provided before or after that judge/magistrate was there and r read him his miranda rights? the right to remain silent and the right to have an attorney? >> sources have indicated to us that was part of a questioning that they did under the -- fbi agent does under a national security exemption, before he was assigned counsel. they had the ability in the interest of public safety exception to be able to ask questions, were there additional coconspirators, where an
justification, the eyes of the law and the courts in the united states, none of that will suffice as a defense and we should be clear with viewers, no matter what dzhokhar says now, the fact that he and his brother don't represent muslims and islams around the world, this was -- you know, this was their view and their own justification for really what were horrific acts of violence? >> do we know, fran, if the information that the younger tsavraev, the 19-year-old tsavraev has been...
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e thet"ord, terrorism.ot t but he also doesn't want to give a future defense attorney the ability to say, oh, well there wasn't a political motive with this guy. he was just some random -- >> political motive key to a finding of terrorism. >> so it's a nonstory. ion't know why people are raising it. everyone knows this was an act hod drop that. there's no brownie points to be gained at this stage. let's let the investigators figure out who d ts and the response and life goes on. ryil issue.to me just to be >> don't handcuff yourself before you know what you're dealing with. >> exactly. we have no idea right now. >> all right, julia, thank you very much. >> up next we're going to take a look at the evidence left behind. so much to pore through right now. forensic teams are piecing together the tiny bits, the tiny pieces of the bomb. they're trying to find what we call the bombmaker's signature. we'r gngo go live to the pentagon with details just ahead. >> we'll be telling you things about this bomb we haven't heard before that arellin ts instigation to move forward. we'll be talking t
e thet"ord, terrorism.ot t but he also doesn't want to give a future defense attorney the ability to say, oh, well there wasn't a political motive with this guy. he was just some random -- >> political motive key to a finding of terrorism. >> so it's a nonstory. ion't know why people are raising it. everyone knows this was an act hod drop that. there's no brownie points to be gained at this stage. let's let the investigators figure out who d ts and the response and life goes...
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or are you going to be the first line of defense, like we as leaders are, and call it in to the proper authorities? >> reporter: yesterday canadian authorities stood by the accusation that these two suspects were getting support from al qaeda elements out of iran. there was considerable blowback out of tehran yesterday, saying there was no way that could be happening, but canadian authorities are sticking to their guns saying, absolutely, that's what they believe transpired here. >> ted rowlands, appreciate having you there monitoring these latest develop themenment us. >>> coming up, a texas man witnesses tragedy twice over. first the boston terror attacks. then days later this earth rattling fertilizer plant explosion in west, texas. what he told us about narrowly escape both of them. s my laundry for me so i don't have to think. wait. what was the question? [ male announcer ] how do you get your bounce? [ man ] stick it and forget it. and be good for your face? [ female announcer ] now there's new neutrogena® naturals acne cleanser. acne medicine from the wintergreen leaf treats br
or are you going to be the first line of defense, like we as leaders are, and call it in to the proper authorities? >> reporter: yesterday canadian authorities stood by the accusation that these two suspects were getting support from al qaeda elements out of iran. there was considerable blowback out of tehran yesterday, saying there was no way that could be happening, but canadian authorities are sticking to their guns saying, absolutely, that's what they believe transpired here. >>...
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with the mother, we heard her clearly loving her sons and in defense of them. and that's all fine. but it's actually meaningless thing in the context of what the investigators are interested in which will be facts that they can pursue. >> final question to you. we understand the questioning lasted for hours and yesterday, apparently, at some point this father became sick. can you read anything into that? >> i don't think so. i know what all of us know from the media, there were reports he was gravely ill in some undefined way. it's a stressful thing to talk to an american official. it's extremely stressful to lose your children under any circumstance, particularly when they are the objects of national revulsion. and it appears to be terrorists. so one can understand feeling badly in any circumstance like that. >> thank you so much. professional who knows how these kinds of interrogations can go. thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >>> coming up, he was arrested, accused of trying to send a poisonous letter to the president and other officials then abruptly this guy
with the mother, we heard her clearly loving her sons and in defense of them. and that's all fine. but it's actually meaningless thing in the context of what the investigators are interested in which will be facts that they can pursue. >> final question to you. we understand the questioning lasted for hours and yesterday, apparently, at some point this father became sick. can you read anything into that? >> i don't think so. i know what all of us know from the media, there were...
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joining us from washington is former cia director and chair of the foundation for defense of democracy, ambassador r. james wolsly. thank you so much for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> one of the things we are hearing, the younger brother, dzhokhar tsavraev is telling investigators, not sure if we should believe him or not, that the brothers became self-radical ice e self-radicalized here in the united states by watching online videos. does that seem reasonable to you? >> yes, largely. seemed to be what happened to major hasan who killed 13 fellow soldiers in ft. hood a couple of years ago. it seemed to be what happened to the underwear bomber, who was only caught by alert passengers and crew on an aircraft after his father went to the state department and said my son is extremely radical, watch him. we don't look very good in terms of one part of the u.s. government talking to another. the people who looked the best in the last few days is the mounties in canada. they kept track of these two guys for two years, and were able to arrest them before they blew up a train betwee
joining us from washington is former cia director and chair of the foundation for defense of democracy, ambassador r. james wolsly. thank you so much for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> one of the things we are hearing, the younger brother, dzhokhar tsavraev is telling investigators, not sure if we should believe him or not, that the brothers became self-radical ice e self-radicalized here in the united states by watching online videos. does that seem reasonable to you?...
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he's a former analyst for the cia, as i said, also with the defense department. thank you so much for being with us this morning. i really appreciate it. and, peters, here's the question, we know that the suspect is sedated. we know that he's intubated with injuries to the throat. if there is communication going on, we can presume it's probably by writing. you probably can't get all the answers you want, so what are the key questions to ask right now? >> of course the other question is, i'm not a medical professional, but to what level of competent can he answer those questions? but as we said, the most important thing right now, john, is to know if there's any other plots under way. if there's any other bombs out there. issues of public -- of public safety. eventually down the road they're going to want to get into the history of this, because obviously the other terrorist, his older brother, is gone. they're going to want to know how this all came about. but right now, it's public safety, any other plots under way, any other bombs out there they need to know ab
he's a former analyst for the cia, as i said, also with the defense department. thank you so much for being with us this morning. i really appreciate it. and, peters, here's the question, we know that the suspect is sedated. we know that he's intubated with injuries to the throat. if there is communication going on, we can presume it's probably by writing. you probably can't get all the answers you want, so what are the key questions to ask right now? >> of course the other question is,...